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Pat Swilling 7/9 unsigned, but corrected?

In 1992 Profiles, Oddities on December 28, 2011 at 6:11 am


One significant flaw in the Pro Line cards of 1991, 1992 and 1993 was the Pat Swilling 7/9 Profiles card. The back of the card showed a picture of Rickey Jackson wearing an NFC Pro Bowl jersey with the number 55. However, his towel indicates that the player is “NO 57,” which would’ve been Jackson.

All four of the Saints’ starting linebackers were Pro Bowlers in 1992 (following the 1991 season): Swilling, Jackson, Sam Mills and Vaughan Johnson. Simply amazing.

According to collector Jayson Morand, Swilling refused to sign the 7/9 Profiles card because the picture on the back was not him. Beckett considers the complete autograph set of Swilling Profiles to be eight cards.

And, also according to Morand, dealer/collector Bill Dodge says Pro Line later issued a corrected version of Swilling’s 7/9 card. I have never seen that; neither has Morand.

Once again, information from this post has come from Moran’s website, with permission. And Jayson has a request: If anybody knows anything about the updated version of this card, contact him through his website or shoot me an email at bcn33rs@gmail.com.

My first scouting report: Paul & Judy’s

In 1991 Portraits, 1992 Portraits, 1992 Profiles, misinformation, who didn't sign on December 13, 2011 at 12:29 pm

One of the first things that alerted me to the fact that not everybody had autographed their Pro Line football cards was some information I got in a catalog in 1993. It was from Paul & Judy’s Coins & Cards of Arcola, Ill.

A section of their catalog was dedicated to players who had not signed their cards and was titled “Missing in action: just too busy to be bothered.” Awesome. They warned their customers, “Don’t expect to find any of the following autographed cards in your wax packs … or anywhere else, for that matter.” And then they listed the following cards:

Fred Biletnikoff

Al Davis: Joseph C., a reader of the site, is nearly finished with the entire set of signed, embossed cards. He says he’s never seen the Al Davis.

Dennis Green

Frank Gifford (with the warning “Watch out for some that were rubber-stamped with ‘facsimile’ autograph.”)

Kathie Lee Gifford

Gifford Family

Joe Gibbs (“Race Car Card”)

James Hasty

Mark Rypien

Anthony Smith

Richard Todd

Eric Dickerson (#5 Profiles)

Jim Everett (all nine Profiles)

Jack Kemp (all nine Profiles)

Chris Miller (all nine Profiles)

Jerry Rice (#1, 2, 3, 4 Profiles)

Mark Rypien (all nine Profiles)

Deion Sanders (all nine Profiles)

Sterling Sharpe (#4 Profiles; they said, “This card was signed, but autograph ‘defective.’)

Bruce Smith (#5 Profiles; they said, “He didn’t like card.”)

Pat Swilling (#7 profiles)

Vinny Testaverde (#2, 4 Profiles; “Signed, but ‘defective.’)

The problem with this list is that it’s not accurate. At the time, it was a nice warning that not every card was gonna be out there. But Testaverde, for example, signed all his cards. I’m not sure what they meant by “defective.” Did the card not bring joy to whoever pulled it out of a pack?

But clearly, Vinny signed all nine cards.

The following is my best information on the Paul & Judy’s list:

Fred Biletnikoff: SIGNED

Al Davis: SIGNED (according to Beckett.com)

Dennis Green: SIGNED. I have seen this card for sale on eBay. I had a cow when I did, but I was outbid. It was sometime around 2000, and I can’t remember how much it sold for. It had the embossed seal. I have not seen one since.

Frank Gifford: SIGNED, although some may be by a rubber stamp. I have seen stamped, certified, autographed Frank Gifford cards, but I’m not enough of an expert to know if it was a rubber stamp. It looked good to me. But this brings up a question about rubber-stamped Pro Line autographs. They’re less desirable to some folks, but does having a rubber-stamped Pro Line not meet the criteria for having that card if you’re trying to compile the whole set? I know Jim Kelly rubber-stamped many of the 1991 cards. So does having one of those mean you really don’t have the card? We’ll discuss this at some other date.

Kathie Lee Gifford: I don’t know

Gifford Family: I don’t know

Joe Gibbs (“Race Car Card”): I don’t know

James Hasty: I don’t know

Mark Rypien: SIGNED.

Anthony Smith: I don’t know

Richard Todd: I don’t know

Eric Dickerson 5: I don’t know

Jim Everett, all nine cards: SIGNED

Jim Everett supercollector Geoff (see comment below) has found all nine of the Everett Profiles cards that are signed with the embossed seal.

Jack Kemp (all nine profiles): I am told that Kemp did sign some of these. They do exist, but in extremely low numbers.

Chris Miller (all nine profiles): I don’t know

Jerry Rice Profiles: SIGNED. I have seen all nine of these signed with the regular certified seal. I have one with the regular seal, and I have all nine autographed with the seal from the National convention.

Mark Rypien all nine Profiles: SIGNED (according to Jayson Morand)

Deion Sanders 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6: SIGNED (see photo of #3)

Deion Sanders 7, 8, 9: I don’t know

Sterling Sharpe 4: SIGNED

Bruce Smith 5: I don’t know

Pat Swilling 7: I don’t know.

Vinny Testaverde 2, 4: SIGNED

(By “I don’t know, I mean I’ve never seen it and have no reason to doubt Paul & Judy’s information. By “SIGNED,” I mean I have visual verification that a signed, embossed card does exist, and in some cases I own them.)