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Here’s the 1992 Pro Line National set

In 1992 National Convention, 1992 Profiles, Oddities on May 5, 2013 at 2:46 am

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We covered quite a bit about the 1991 Pro Line set with the embossed seal from the National Sports Card Convention that year in Anaheim, Calif.

So here’s a little information about the 1992 Pro Line National set, which I mentioned I own.

The following was taken from worthpoint.com, which was quoting Beckett in 2005-06:

This set was distributed at a private party at the 1992 National Sports Collector’s Convention. Each card is essentially a parallel to the base and some insert Pro Line Portraits cards and each was embossed with a “The National 1992” loto on the lower right corner of the cardfront. Unlike the base cards, each National card was not numbered on the back. At the party, the cards were issued to attendees in complete set form in special 1992 National two-binder set within plastic sheets. The big Beckett gives a Book Value on this special set at $900.00!

It goes on to say the Portraits portion of the set would be worth $600 and the Profiles would be worth $300. But I can’t imagine breaking the two-binder set apart and doing away with the box that they fit into.

I also don’t think they’re worth that much.

And here’s what the front of one of the binders looks like.

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Here’s a shot of the spines of the binders.

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And here is one of the National-embossed Profiles cards of Mike Ditka.

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Deion 1/9 does exist!

In 1992 Profiles on March 9, 2013 at 1:57 am

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Two of the Deion Sanders 1992 Pro Line Profiles 1/9 cards, autographed and certified, have sold on eBay in the past two months.

This was a card that, not too long ago, I wasn’t sure even existed.

In a previous post about my first scouting report, I noted that Paul & Judy’s Coins & Cards of Arcola, Ill., was convinced that Deion had not signed and returned any of the nine-card set.

That obviously is not the case.

However, what I am not seeing in the completed auctions on eBay are cards 7/9, 8/9 and 9/9. The other six I’ve actually seen. Those three I have not.

And, when looking at the market data of completed auctions, the buyers of these two 1/9 cards got pretty good deals, one of them in particular. The most recent sold for 15.50, and an earlier one went for 24.06.

If you compare that to other Sanders Profiles cards, those prices are not bad. Good, in fact, if you consider what may be the scarcity of the card.

As of the writing of this post, i had seen only two 1/9, two 3/9 and two 6/9 cards for Deion. The 2/9 and 4/9 appear to be more common.

But I have found the 2/9 and the 4/9 to sell from $11 to $22. So $24 is not too bad for a card that I’m assuming is fairly rare. And the $15.50 price is great. Congratulations to that lucky bidder.

So if anybody has seen the 7/9, 8/9 or 9/9 cards, give me a shout.

Stamp in the wrong place

In 1992 Profiles, Oddities on August 7, 2012 at 5:36 pm

Here’s a card I found on eBay. It’s a Derrick Thomas 1992 Profiles card that was stamped in the wrong place.

It’s difficult to tell from the front of the card, but look at the back. The stamp is in the top right corner, instead of the bottom.

Does anybody specifically collect oddball cards like this one? Would you call this an “error card”? Would anybody specifically avoid a card like this when putting together the whole set?

Here’s the other side of the same card.

And here’s a Bernie Kosar Profiles card I came across.

Pat Swilling 7/9 unsigned, but corrected?

In 1992 Profiles, Oddities on December 28, 2011 at 6:11 am


One significant flaw in the Pro Line cards of 1991, 1992 and 1993 was the Pat Swilling 7/9 Profiles card. The back of the card showed a picture of Rickey Jackson wearing an NFC Pro Bowl jersey with the number 55. However, his towel indicates that the player is “NO 57,” which would’ve been Jackson.

All four of the Saints’ starting linebackers were Pro Bowlers in 1992 (following the 1991 season): Swilling, Jackson, Sam Mills and Vaughan Johnson. Simply amazing.

According to collector Jayson Morand, Swilling refused to sign the 7/9 Profiles card because the picture on the back was not him. Beckett considers the complete autograph set of Swilling Profiles to be eight cards.

And, also according to Morand, dealer/collector Bill Dodge says Pro Line later issued a corrected version of Swilling’s 7/9 card. I have never seen that; neither has Morand.

Once again, information from this post has come from Moran’s website, with permission. And Jayson has a request: If anybody knows anything about the updated version of this card, contact him through his website or shoot me an email at bcn33rs@gmail.com.

Mark Rypien did sign his Pro Line Profiles set

In 1992 Profiles, Oddities on December 27, 2011 at 6:34 am


The following update on the 1992 Mark Rypien Pro Line profiles set is courtesy of Pro Line autograph collector Jayson Morand. Check out the story in his words on his website. I have paraphrased the basics here:

In 2008, Morand had the opportunity to purchase the complete 1992 Pro Line Profiles Mark Rypien autograph set.

The significance behind this is that an autographed Rypien set was not known to exist. The quarterback was in a contract dispute with the Redskins when the new Pro Line cards were being designed. Pro Line sent the cards to Rypien to be autographed.

He signed them with the thought of sending them back once his contract was settled, but he never did.

Morand bought the set from a member of the Rypien family 16 years later.

I have included one of Jayson’s scans, with his permission.

My first scouting report: Paul & Judy’s

In 1991 Portraits, 1992 Portraits, 1992 Profiles, misinformation, who didn't sign on December 13, 2011 at 12:29 pm

One of the first things that alerted me to the fact that not everybody had autographed their Pro Line football cards was some information I got in a catalog in 1993. It was from Paul & Judy’s Coins & Cards of Arcola, Ill.

A section of their catalog was dedicated to players who had not signed their cards and was titled “Missing in action: just too busy to be bothered.” Awesome. They warned their customers, “Don’t expect to find any of the following autographed cards in your wax packs … or anywhere else, for that matter.” And then they listed the following cards:

Fred Biletnikoff

Al Davis: Joseph C., a reader of the site, is nearly finished with the entire set of signed, embossed cards. He says he’s never seen the Al Davis.

Dennis Green

Frank Gifford (with the warning “Watch out for some that were rubber-stamped with ‘facsimile’ autograph.”)

Kathie Lee Gifford

Gifford Family

Joe Gibbs (“Race Car Card”)

James Hasty

Mark Rypien

Anthony Smith

Richard Todd

Eric Dickerson (#5 Profiles)

Jim Everett (all nine Profiles)

Jack Kemp (all nine Profiles)

Chris Miller (all nine Profiles)

Jerry Rice (#1, 2, 3, 4 Profiles)

Mark Rypien (all nine Profiles)

Deion Sanders (all nine Profiles)

Sterling Sharpe (#4 Profiles; they said, “This card was signed, but autograph ‘defective.’)

Bruce Smith (#5 Profiles; they said, “He didn’t like card.”)

Pat Swilling (#7 profiles)

Vinny Testaverde (#2, 4 Profiles; “Signed, but ‘defective.’)

The problem with this list is that it’s not accurate. At the time, it was a nice warning that not every card was gonna be out there. But Testaverde, for example, signed all his cards. I’m not sure what they meant by “defective.” Did the card not bring joy to whoever pulled it out of a pack?

But clearly, Vinny signed all nine cards.

The following is my best information on the Paul & Judy’s list:

Fred Biletnikoff: SIGNED

Al Davis: SIGNED (according to Beckett.com)

Dennis Green: SIGNED. I have seen this card for sale on eBay. I had a cow when I did, but I was outbid. It was sometime around 2000, and I can’t remember how much it sold for. It had the embossed seal. I have not seen one since.

Frank Gifford: SIGNED, although some may be by a rubber stamp. I have seen stamped, certified, autographed Frank Gifford cards, but I’m not enough of an expert to know if it was a rubber stamp. It looked good to me. But this brings up a question about rubber-stamped Pro Line autographs. They’re less desirable to some folks, but does having a rubber-stamped Pro Line not meet the criteria for having that card if you’re trying to compile the whole set? I know Jim Kelly rubber-stamped many of the 1991 cards. So does having one of those mean you really don’t have the card? We’ll discuss this at some other date.

Kathie Lee Gifford: I don’t know

Gifford Family: I don’t know

Joe Gibbs (“Race Car Card”): I don’t know

James Hasty: I don’t know

Mark Rypien: SIGNED.

Anthony Smith: I don’t know

Richard Todd: I don’t know

Eric Dickerson 5: I don’t know

Jim Everett, all nine cards: SIGNED

Jim Everett supercollector Geoff (see comment below) has found all nine of the Everett Profiles cards that are signed with the embossed seal.

Jack Kemp (all nine profiles): I am told that Kemp did sign some of these. They do exist, but in extremely low numbers.

Chris Miller (all nine profiles): I don’t know

Jerry Rice Profiles: SIGNED. I have seen all nine of these signed with the regular certified seal. I have one with the regular seal, and I have all nine autographed with the seal from the National convention.

Mark Rypien all nine Profiles: SIGNED (according to Jayson Morand)

Deion Sanders 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6: SIGNED (see photo of #3)

Deion Sanders 7, 8, 9: I don’t know

Sterling Sharpe 4: SIGNED

Bruce Smith 5: I don’t know

Pat Swilling 7: I don’t know.

Vinny Testaverde 2, 4: SIGNED

(By “I don’t know, I mean I’ve never seen it and have no reason to doubt Paul & Judy’s information. By “SIGNED,” I mean I have visual verification that a signed, embossed card does exist, and in some cases I own them.)